Why Doesn’t He Call?

Posted by Susan Walsh on Dec 2, 2008 in Ask Susan, What Guys Want |

 

 

“Mr. Right’s coming, but he’s in Africa, and he’s walking.”

Oprah Winfrey

 

 

Aunt Sue,

Ugggghhhhh, I don’t get it! I am so frustrated. I thought for sure this boy was different. I mean, I’ve been through this a million times. I figured out a long time ago that guys will hardly ever call after a random hookup, and if they do you know it’s a booty call. Fine. But is there one single guy who is not 100% immune to me?  I’ve been trying to follow your advice this semester, and it’s been good in the sense that guys seem to have figured out that I’m not gonna hook up at closing time.

Lately I’ve been hanging out with this guy, taking it really slow. I told him I didn’t want to rush the sex, and he said that was cool. For about three weeks we were talking, texting, hanging out, etc. We’ve even met for lunch and studied together. I was really starting to like him a lot. Last weekend we finally hooked up and it was really good between us.  We didn’t have sex, but it was pretty intense emotionally. I could tell he was really into it. I figured I would talk to him really soon after that, ’cause we usually talk every day. When he didn’t call for a couple of days I called him, and he was nice but things felt really weird and off. Now it’s been over a week, and he’s clearly done. He won’t even make eye contact. Why? Why? Why?

Annabel

Annabel, I understand why you are frustrated; you feel like you have done everything right, and things still didn’t work out. “Why doesn’t he call?” are probably the four words women dread uttering most (followed closely by “We need to talk.”) I would say this is probably the most common complaint of young women. Things seem to be going really well, and then the guy disappears. Self-help books have been written about this one question. There are lots of reasons a boy may stop calling, but it’s tricky to generalize.

Here are the most common interpretations girls make when a boy is MIA:

He’s Just Not That Into You

Yeah, I guess it’s true that if he were obsessed he’d call.  But I don’t think not calling means that he doesn’t like you or feel attracted to you. Often the best lasting relationships evolve slowly, not necessarily moving forward in a straight path. Maybe he will be in touch again after a little while, maybe not. If a boy has second thoughts about committing and then goes for it, that’s a happy ending. 

By the way, I have trouble with this explanation (and book) in general. I find it really depressing. It’s in the FIDO genre of self-help (F**k It Drive On). Sometimes it pays to hang in there for a while. Every young woman I know who’s read this book feels very discouraged afterwards. Who needs to read a self-hurt book?

You’re Not Relationship Material

So often girls blame themselves when the guy loses interest.  They feel like they’ve been told they’re not good enough, not hot enough, whatever, for the guy to become exclusive. But in the hookup culture, it is often precisely those girls who are relationship material who get screwed over. Guys want to hook up. When a guy is monogamous, he is giving up something he wants. When a guy is single and hooking up with a variety of girls, he usually doesn’t get to know any of them particularly well. The intimacy is strictly physical.

In your case, you delayed the physical intimacy, and established a friendship first.  The two of you got to know each other, resulting in an emotional connection. You enjoyed spending time together. When you did get physically intimate, you saw it as a natural progression from the feelings you were having for this boy, and by your own account it went really well for both of you. But as you were feeling great about being on the path to a relationship, he was freaking out – “Like, whoa, man, this is way too intense!” Scary stuff. So he balked.

What is especially disappointing in this case is that even though you had become friends and spent a lot of time together, he was unable to tell you what was really going on with him. Unfortunately, that is also common. Even nice guys just don’t know how to talk to girls about emotional stuff. Most of them will get there eventually, but he just isn’t on your emotional wavelength yet.

He’s a Total Player Douche Bag

You feel like you’ve been messed with. He hung out with you till he got what he wanted, then he took off. You feel used. He wasn’t even honest about it. He made you look like a fool. He is probably getting props from his friends right now for dumping you. When you see him around, he ignores you, he acts like you’ve got the plague.

All of this might be true. Or none of it might be. He might be a nice guy who handled this really poorly. He might be confused. He might be taking crap from his friends about being whipped.

Guys are good at pretending to be invested in the short-term to get sex, but if you spent a fair amount of time with this boy, and you were emotionally and sexually compatible, then I don’t think you should assume you used poor judgment, or were wrong about him. The fact that he was cool with taking it slowly from the beginning weighs in his favor. He might just not be ready. Or maybe he realized he wasn’t going to fall in love with you. It happens. 

So what should you do now?

  • Be fabulous. Fake it if you have to, but you will feel better about yourself if you exude confidence whenever you are around him.
  • Don’t engage in drama. Let it go. Creating a scene makes you look like a psycho and convinces him he made the right call.
  • Don’t write him off. Chill out, and keep an open mind. I’ve seen boys in this sitch come around, though you shouldn’t wait for or expect that. He’s probably too much of an idiot. Of course, the chances are good that if he does see the light you will have moved on. But at the very least, in time he may be able to apologize and approach you as a friend again.
  • Don’t go back to behaviors that made you unhappy. This is not the time to start having sex with his frat brothers. Stay true to yourself and what you want.
  • Get back out there so that you are ready and open for the right guy when he shows up. Soon there will be a boy who is really glad you aren’t taken. Continue to take it slow, maintain your independence and learn.     

 

This is all part of living – it will shape your own future expectations and experiences, and will help you learn what you want (and don’t want) from a relationship.  In the meantime, remember two things that are always true in life:

  • Everything changes.
  • You will be surprised.

 

MWAH,

Aunt Sue

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25 Comments

  • Casey says:

    This just helped me SOOO much! I am currently going through he same exact situation. maybe a little different. My only question that went unanswered is Do i not contact him? Play hard to get? Just let it be?

  • Susan Walsh says:

    Casey,

    It’s hard to say without knowing your specifics, but in general, I do believe in letting the guy do the pursuing. He will be in touch when he wants to be. I wouldn’t play hard to get, exactly. Just be confident, strong and independent in your life, and let him see that. When you run into him or interact with him you can be open and friendly. Make it clear that you won’t call him out if he wants to get in touch. If he is gone for good, you will feel thankful that you didn’t chase him down.

    Good luck, fingers crossed.

  • LeslieL says:

    I'm going through the same thing as well, I thought he was great guy who I could see myself being with – things started fast and moved fast from the beginning. I had a crush on him years ago but never persued it because I found out he was two years younger than me. (I was 19 at the time and he was 17, I'm almost 24 now and he's 22)

    On a random Saturday night we reunited after four years through a mutual friend, he brought up what happened long ago, and we instantly had this spark and ended up seeing each other for the next month. That was the problem, we only “saw each other” for a month, we hung out all the time, he would call and text me all the time. He held my hand, called me “baby” and actually liked cuddling. I felt like I was really falling for him, it seems like it happened so fast. But he never wanted to make it official. I brought up what we were with him a few times but he could never give me a straight answer, I wanted to know because I was going to be moving at the end of the month.

    Three weeks into it, we had sex. I wanted to hold off as long as possible because I wanted to see what his real intentions were, it was great, but I couldn't help but half regret that I did it. Things just got weird afterwards. A week after that, he started grad school and his texts/calls went from everyday to every other day and his replies weren't so quick. That was two weeks ago, I've moved to a city about two hours away and I haven't talked to him in over a week. Last time I called him I told him I was going to be coming home to visit and told him I wanted to meet up and hang out. He told me he was out of town for the entire weekend and basically told me to call him when I was going to be coming back again, but to give him notice ahead of time.

    This whole thing has been so hard for me to deal with, I put my feelings out there and I feel so used by him, the worst part of it all is that I could never see him doing that. Things were so good until we had sex and now I'm still hurting over it. I want to call him but I know at the same time he doesn't want to continue it. What do I do??

  • susanawalsh says:

    Hi LeslieL, nice to meet you. Thanks for trusting me with your question. OK, I have a few thoughts.

    1. It is MAJOR that when you and he started something you both knew that you were moving away in a month. I've actually discussed this with guys — they view that as an expiration date. They figure, why should I make a commitment to someone who is leaving very soon? This happens a lot over the summer, when kids are home from college. A summer romance starts, the girl is all about it, figures, let's be together as much as possible, and the guy is wary because of the expiration date.

    2. It is also very significant that he started grad school. Aside from the enormous stress, wanting to get off to a good start, make a good impression, etc., it is possible that he is looking forward to meeting new people. He may be hedging his bets.

    3. Although it is clear he has pulled away, I'm not so sure that things got weird because of the sex. 1. and 2. may have a lot to do with it. By asking you to make plans ahead of time, he is signaling that you and he are not in a relationship, and that you cannot make any assumptions.

    I am so sorry you got hurt. It is possible that he used you, but it is also very possible that his feelings were/are real, and that your relationship was sabotaged by bad timing. Most guys will not happily conduct a long-distance relationship. It's all the work without the frequent company/sex.

    Since in the past you have felt comfortable enough to bring up your relationship with him, you could certainly call him and ask for an honest and friendly talk. You could also express your willingness to be “just friends” for now (if you're willing) or to just play it by ear for a while.

    Once you've had that talk, I would definitely lay off contacting him in any way. It sounds like you are pursuing him, and it's not working. He knows how to reach you if he is thinking about you or missing you. You can not make things better at this point by being the one to initiate contact.

    I hope this helps – women find themselves in this situation often, and it sucks. Please let me know how things go.

  • susanawalsh says:

    Hi LeslieL, nice to meet you. Thanks for trusting me with your question. OK, I have a few thoughts.

    1. It is MAJOR that when you and he started something you both knew that you were moving away in a month. I've actually discussed this with guys — they view that as an expiration date. They figure, why should I make a commitment to someone who is leaving very soon? This happens a lot over the summer, when kids are home from college. A summer romance starts, the girl is all about it, figures, let's be together as much as possible, and the guy is wary because of the expiration date.

    2. It is also very significant that he started grad school. Aside from the enormous stress, wanting to get off to a good start, make a good impression, etc., it is possible that he is looking forward to meeting new people. He may be hedging his bets.

    3. Although it is clear he has pulled away, I'm not so sure that things got weird because of the sex. 1. and 2. may have a lot to do with it. By asking you to make plans ahead of time, he is signaling that you and he are not in a relationship, and that you cannot make any assumptions.

    I am so sorry you got hurt. It is possible that he used you, but it is also very possible that his feelings were/are real, and that your relationship was sabotaged by bad timing. Most guys will not happily conduct a long-distance relationship. It's all the work without the frequent company/sex.

    Since in the past you have felt comfortable enough to bring up your relationship with him, you could certainly call him and ask for an honest and friendly talk. You could also express your willingness to be “just friends” for now (if you're willing) or to just play it by ear for a while.

    Once you've had that talk, I would definitely lay off contacting him in any way. It sounds like you are pursuing him, and it's not working. He knows how to reach you if he is thinking about you or missing you. You can not make things better at this point by being the one to initiate contact.

    I hope this helps – women find themselves in this situation often, and it sucks. Please let me know how things go.

  • collegegirl1 says:

    Hey, all your articles are so helpful…and SOSO true! This semester, I hooked up with a guy a couple of weekends and then he just ended it. Basically, I knew all along he wanted sex, but I kept rejecting him, and he kept pursuing me, so I thought that he was fine with waiting. The last night we hooked up, though, was the last weekend of the semester, and he really thought he was gonna get sex, but we weren't in a relationship and I wasn't ready. Since I met him, he made me feel special and would compliment me and it seemed like he really liked me. I learned that it was all a lie and he was playing me to get one thing out of me, because when he didn't get sex he practically kicked me out the next morning and the next day when I saw him he ignored me and pretended he didn't see me. I got mad, saw him, and then turned around and called him out. It made me feel better because it validated that he was only lying to me all along for sex, but in the end, he probably thought I was psychotic or something, when in reality, I feel like I was being honest and staying strong because I had the courage to go up to him. I had how I was probably viewed as the crazy girl, and he had the power all along. I ended up getting hurt because I got emotionally attached and he obviously was only physically attached. It sucks.

  • susanawalsh says:

    Collegegirl1, nice to meet you, I'm really glad you took the time to comment. About that guy: WHAT A DOUCHEBAG! The absolute worst is when a guy pretends to be nice, respectful and caring, only to get the touchdown. Then it's Game Over. Ugh. However, I've gotta say, you did everything right here. You didn't have sex before you were ready. He didn't get what he wanted. So you can feel good about respecting yourself. Also, I love, love, love it that you called him out. Brave girl!

    Re the psycho label, guys use it all the time when girls tell the truth. They behave very badly, then say a girl is crazy because she refuses to put up with it. It's understandable that you were angry, and there was nothing crazy about your behavior.

    I am really sorry you got hurt. When you're in college, one thing you can do is be aware of someone's reputation before you get close to them. So no matter how sweet a guy is acting, if he has left a trail of broken hearts, steer clear. Look for some signs of vulnerability – a guy who acts 100% confident all the time? That's a red flag.

    Re power, that is a tough one. I would say that ultimately, you had the last word. There is power in that. He didn't get to add you to his number.

  • collegegirl1 says:

    I would have to say I agree with the confidence thing. He did act confident all the time..and had an attitude that he could get whatever he wanted. There were signs there but I ignored him because when he would act all nice, I believed it, because I am a good person and want to believe the best in people. A lot of the times I am too trustworthy. He kept texting me and iming me so I was flattered that he was interested. He said he really liked me and wanted to get to know me and wasn't like “all those other guys who use girls for sex.” He said this TWO days before doing this..so yeah you can imagine how upset I was. Problem was, he is in a fraternity and all his brothers were saying how he was such a good guy and really liked me so they were basically setting us up. They probably just wanted him to get laid. He didn't hang out with friends who were girls whenever I was with him..whenever we were together he only focused on me and didn't even check out other girls. This guy was a really great learning experience, and I had fun at the time, but in the end…yes total and complete douchebag.

  • susanawalsh says:

    Hmmm, why am I not surprised to hear he's in a frat? They're not all bad (my son was in one and he's a good guy), but a lot of guys join frats just to get access to girls/sex. And all his bros chiming in about how great the two of you were together – I've seen it happen many times.

    It sounds like you learned a lot here – I don't think you'll be having this experience again. I'm glad you found out before you'd gotten even more invested, e.g. after sex.

  • Gigi says:

    I think I need some help here too which I have been confused for the last few days. I met this guy who came from half way around the earth in an event and I could tell we were having eye contacts and smiling at each others but he left early we did not even exchange contacts. I knew he was leaving the country very soon but I totally have feeling for him. Amazingly, after couple of days I met him again downstairs at my work and we got to exchange contacts. When he asked where in town is good to go for drinks, I simply just told him where to go but he said he hasn't been there. Then I offered to get together for a drink that night. Instead of getting a drink, he offered to watch a movie in his hotel suite that night. Of course, as an adult I know exactly what he meant. I had also thought it thru whether I want the sex on the first date (well, can't even call it a date) which I never had one night stand before. My answer was "yes" since I totally couldn't resist him.

  • Gigi says:

    As turned out we really did it but what I most enjoyed was not the sex. It was the talking that night. I got the feeling that he enjoyed the talking and he really did show interest about my live and he was sweet and gentle. Before I left, I thought he delivered a clear message to me what he expected from us which I actually felt very comfortable about. What can I expect from him? It is just crazy if I expect he would commit in a long term relationship. He gesture did show me we can remain as friends. He told me to keep contact and whenever I swing by his country, let him know. We even mentioned the possible time and place to meet up again.

  • Gigi says:

    Of course he did not contact after I left and he went back to where he lives already. I am totally cool with that because I don't expect someone so busy to contact me first. Also, I can understand that he doesn't want to give me the wrong feeling he wants to commit. I am happy if we can keep contact, understand each other more (actually, we are different culture too), be friends and see if we are really right for each others.

  • Gigi says:

    They said all the things he did was just to get me in bed and he is a total player. I started going crazy after my friends’ comments. I guess my biggest worry is they are right and he will never contact even I write to him. Do you think they are right that the talking was fake and he will not contact again? I know the steps were already wrong but is there a chance that we can still start from friendship, see each others when we have the chance and see what will happen from there? Thanks you and sorry for the long message.

  • susanawalsh says:

    Gigi, I think this guy has made it very clear he does not intend to follow up in any way. You went over to his hotel for sex, and he then returned to another country. Men are capable of chatting and talking without feeling any interest in meeting up again. If he wanted to see you again, he would have already acted on that. Actions speak louder than words, and he has left for good.

    Please do not waste another minute thinking of this man. It doesn't sound like he is interested in friendship or anything other than sex.

  • should be a character in He's Just Not That Into You says:

    Hi there!
    Wow, I’ve never read situations that so closely resemble the one I’m in! I’ll give you an overview..(hmm i’m a little nervous that he’ll read this! haha)
    So, my freshman year of college. I met this guy in one of my classes..and right away I got that vibe that he was kind of interested. Like, he just gave me that look. I wasn’t too too interested in him at first but I thought he was really attractive. Anyways, I found out he had a serious girlfriend. It didn’t bother me at all in the beginning since I didn’t like him. Then one night, me and my girlfriends went out, and he and his guys went with us. This was really early on in the year, and was the night we had our first conversation. He was soo flirtatious and we were really compatible. He asked for my number also. At this point, I had developed a huge crush on him.. Months went by and he continued to flirt with me. I mean like really flirt, and gave me a bunch of compliments. He would text me like seriously every day to do homework together. We got to be really good friends. I was miserable though because the guy had a girlfriend back home! But, wouldn’t you know it…one fine day, they broke up. He went through a period where he wasn’t acting like himself because he was sad and everything. I saw him out at night, and he was dancing with other girls, and hooked up with a couple..just amde out. But during this period, we grew apart. I blame myself a little bit cause I tried to play super hard to get. I did that because when he was all depressed about the break up, he stopped flirting with me. Okay, fast forward to one friday night a few months later. I was out at a bar with my friends, and he walked in with his possy. He said hi to me, and at this point, I had lost all hope with him cause he’d just been so distant lately. Usually I’d be excited that he was there. Thennn about an hour later, he comes up to me and asks if I want to get outta there, and go somewhere. I was soo confused but was like, “yeah sure!” So I alerted the girls, he and I left. We walked back to campus from the bar, and talked the whole way. It was unreal. Came from out of nowhere. At one point on the walk, he asked to hold my hand. And when he took my hand said, “oh my god this feels so good.” He brought up the fact that we firted first semester, and that his girlfriend hates me! I’ve never even met her but apparently he would talk about me all the time (which was dumb!)..and so she “stalked me on facebook.” Kay, so we eventually get to his room. We’re just talking still, and standing next to his bed. I forget what I was saying, but he interrupted me and turned me toward him. Put his hand on my back and kissed me. I couldn’t believe it. Then we took it to his bed, and hooked up for a few hours. We did everything but sex. He said he knew I was a virgin, so that I shouldnt worry. I guess he was saying he respected me? Um, oh towards the end of the hook up, he looked at me and goes “hey..i want you to know i’m not drunk..” and i was like oh myy god. then he walked me back to my dorm, and we talked a little outside, and then he kissed me goodnight for a good 30 seconds. Told me to call him the next day. I’ll stop with the details now. Basically, that was a couple monts ago..and it hasnt happened again. He’s either happy to see me when we run into each other, OR barely says hello! I’ve been giving him te cold shoulder since then… OH, i should mention that a couple weeks after the hook up, I finally talked to him. I found myself at a loss for words though. I had so many things to say, but couldnt say any of them! He told me that he isnt looking for anything serious, and isnt into hook-up buddies. He said that he didnt think anything was weird, and that he assumed we’d just hook up again some time. That’d be fine by me! but now, i probably just seem like some obsessed freak (and i guess i am..just look at how long this post is! haha)

    Alright anyway, Im gunna be living on the same floor as this ass-clown next year. I don’t know what to do! Honestly, I don’t have any good questions other then — what do i do???

    Did I mention that while we were hooking up he said, “you have no idea how happy I am to finally be doing this.” and “we would have the BEST sex.” haha just a couple fun quotes that I have stored in my memory! :(

  • should be a character in He's Just Not That Into You says:

    WOW that was longer than I realized! Yikes!

  • Susan Walsh says:

    Seriously, stories like this make me crazy, and I hear them all the time! Let’s face it, this guy pretended he was emotionally available. All the quotes you shared were meant to make you feel that this is not just a random hookup, that he has been wanting something real with you for a while. So he’s all about it for one night and then goes cold? Player douchebag. Seriously, ass-clown is too nice an expression for this guy. My advice is to have zero to do with him. Don’t give him attitude, just be 100% indifferent, and fake it till you make it if you have to.

    Isn’t into hookup buddies? Even that is too much commitment for him! You need to run 60mph in the opposite direction from this guy!

  • LeslieL says:

    Hi Susan!
    I hope you are doing well, I am still loving your blog and stop by often to keep myself up to date… please keep it up! :)
    I know it has been a long time coming but I am officially back to my old situation again. As per my whole ordeal with “summer fling guy” last year, after writing to you I didn’t contact him or see him ever since September. I didn’t deal with the situation very well for several months afterward and just felt really jaded, just because I thought we had something special that could very well lead to something more. It just stopped and I had such high expectations of him.
    Around November I met another guy through a friend of a friend, we dated for about a month but eventually it fizzled out because we had too many differences. I just gave him a chance because I thought I was wasting my time sulking over a dead cause.Throughout that whole time though I kept on thinking of summer fling guy, he was always in the back of my mind and I still missed him.
    Fast forward to about two weeks ago, he messaged me privately on Facebook (because I deleted him as a friend) out of the blue. He said he was very sorry about what happened between us and that he thought things moved too fast. He said he bitched out about talking about our “status”and handled it badly and the reason why he didn’t talk to me after was because he thought it would be weird. Then he told me that he hopes we can be friends.

    One thing came to mind after I read that, “WTF?!?!?!” I just don’t understand why he is apologizing now, almost a year after. Needless to say, I sat on it for a couple days before I replied to him, keeping it short and sincere: “Hey, thanks for letting me know. I appreciate that you told me that. I don’t want to bring up old scars but I don’t know about being friends.” He replied right away saying he understood and that he knew he acted like a jerk and just wanted to apologize. I haven’t replied back.
    I know I told him I don’t know about being friends, but I honestly still want to remain in contact with him, even though I know it wouldn’t be good for me and would most likely hurt me. I feel like I am so tempted to call him to hang out, or message him back to make plans. Do you think he is just back in summer mode before he goes back to school and that is why he messaged me to apologize? I don’t know why he took so long to realize this and apologize to me…Is this stooping very low?

  • Susan Walsh says:

    @Leslie
    Do not contact him! He’s already broken your heart once, and it’s selfish of him to ask for your attention now. He is not saying that he likes you or wants anything real. As far as I can tell he’s just playing with you, and you are in no state for that. You say yourself that he isn’t good for you and will most likely hurt you. Let it go, I beg you. Nothing good can come of this. Keep your eyes open to meeting someone new – that’s a much better strategy.
    It’s really good to hear from you :-)

  • october1028 says:

    Hello Susan!

    I have a similar issue although I did not have sex with the guy, he kissed me in a passionate way if you will and it wasn’t just a light peck either. We have known each other for some time but recently just ran into each other twice once at a bar and once at a party. At the party neither of us had been drinking and when we were getting ready to leave we decided to sit and talk in the car. We were talking or more like I was giving him a hard time sarcastically and he made the comment of saying i’m going to make things awkward right now and he kissed me and it wasn’t awkward at all and now I kind of like him. Anyways he had said he’d call but he didn’t yesterday and I wound up texting him and we talked back and forth and i let him know that things weren’t awkward or weird and he said he had been wondering if they were and was glad to know they weren’t. He then said he was cleaning and he would txt me back later but he never did, I mentioned hanging out and he said we could and he’d let me know when he was free because he’s busy a lot during the week. I’m not sure if I should bring up hanging out again and I don’t just want to sit around and wait and I’m starting to feel like things could be awkward if we are at the same party again.. basically i want to know if i should bring up hanging out or just leave it alone even though part of me doesn’t want too.

  • Susan Walsh says:

    @october
    Don’t make any more moves! He is fully aware that you are interested in seeing him again. You have nothing to gain by expressing that repeatedly, and such eagerness on your part may well turn him off. Men are wary of women being needy or clingy, doing anything that signals wanting to get into a serious relationship fast. Being patient sucks, but it’s a better strategy at this point. For future reference, when a man says he’ll call, the ball is in his court. I would not even text when he had already said he would call. Then he said he would text later, and didn’t. Now he’s said he will let you know when he is free. Do you see how it’s a bad idea to keep stealing the initiative from him?

  • october says:

    do you think i totally butchered up and lost any chance..?

  • Susan Walsh says:

    Sorry, I didn’t mean to be harsh. Obviously, I have no idea what he is thinking right now. I just think you’ve made your attraction really clear, which is great – especially stating that you liked it and didn’t feel awkward about it. Now the ball really is in his court, and I don’t think repeatedly getting in touch helps you at all, for the reasons I stated above. I think you need to let him come to you without any prompting.

  • Snowdrop111 says:

    Hi October. I’m not an expert but you said you had known him for some time before this party where you started talking in the car. During that “some time,” he had not made any moves toward you, right? It was just the party right? I’m thinking the good news is you did not mess up any chance. But I’m thinking the bad news is, there really never was a chance. I don’t think he sounds all that interested (sorry to say.)

    My mother said if a man has known a woman two years in his circle and hasn’t made any moves, his feelings are just platonic. He’ll awaken when a new woman arrives in his circle. Be the new woman on some guy’s radar–that’s a better bet for attraction on his part (this is what my mother said.)

    I heard some good advice a few years ago–change up the venues where you go so that you’re the new person in someone’s circle…don’t always go to the same venues because you haven’t been meeting “the one” in that venue you’ve been going to.

    But this probably applies more to people in their prime years, not the very young or the very old.

    Be glad the guy in question isn’t taking advantage of the situation and using you. Maybe his mind is secretly on someone else. I had to face that painful fact in college a few times, and it didn’t matter if the guy couldn’t get the one his mind was on. That’s his problem. My life would be better if I went and found the one whose mind was on me :-)

    Sorry to preach!

  • october says:

    I just started hanging out in his circle, i was dating someone before for 2 years and we just broke up the beginning of this new year. the kid at the party ive known since junior high but we were never friends just acquaintances, we ran into each other almost a week and a half ago at a bar and then we had exchanged numbers and he had invited me to a party.

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